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A Small BSG Season 4 Spoiler

I just saw a small Battlestar Galactica season 4 spoiler at SyFy Portal.  I have to say that I'm a little annoyed at reading this piece of information.

Basically, the spoiler says that BSG is adding a new female character to the cast.  Her name is Kendra Taggert (same initial as Starbuck, coincidence? ) and she's a Major who was stationed on Pegasus.  Supposedly Major Taggert went a little loopy after the initial cylon attack (a la Starbuck?!)

I'm not thrilled at all that BSG would introduce a new character at this late stage.  Ron Moore had already said that the show is moving into its third act in a 3-act structured play.  I would much rather TPTB focus on the stories involving the main characters we all come to love and care about through out the years.

Also I'm a little annoyed at Ron Moore's propensity at recycling his ideas.  Case in point:  the much overly used flashbacks, the "head figures" that nobody else can see for multiple characters, the tendency to use intercut scenes, and now another loopy young female character...

I wonder if this new character is being setup to be the last cylon?  Why else introduce a new character when the story is moving towards its finale? *sigh*

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(Anonymous)
May. 7th, 2007 11:49 pm (UTC)
Your points are all valid. Are they getting a new crazy female since Kara seemed so calm at the end of CRII? I wonder if she'll be blonde as well (I mean, her initials are the same, so why not the hair color? Maybe she's an artist as well)?

As for her being the final cylon--I saw that specualtion elsewhere, too. I think that would be too easy and cheap for RM. They have a large cast as it is--why couldn't Dee be the final one? Gaeta? Romo? Showboat--wasn't she a Pegasus pilot? And we all know her. Heck, there's so many people. I'll really be upset if yet another secondary character--not to mention a character we've never seen or heard of--takes up storytime from the main ones, as I felt is what happened in season 3. I mean, I don't mean to offend, but I really would have liked to see more of Lee than Cally! (yep, bad day--can yout tell?)

Nope, not very thrilled with this news at all.
xwacky
May. 8th, 2007 01:39 am (UTC)
Hi Mick!

Thanks for stopping by and commenting!

They have a large cast as it is--why couldn't Dee be the final one? Gaeta? Romo? Showboat--wasn't she a Pegasus pilot? And we all know her.

Good point! Actually, I'm rooting for Kara being the last cylon--it's the least hooky, the most logical way to resurrect her at this point IMHO.

I'm speculating this new character being a cylon because I really don't think they need yet another female characters. They've got plenty so far: Roslin, Kara, Athena, Dee, Cally, Tory, Racetrack, Seelix, (Six if we are counting the antagonists)... I just wish TPTB can concentrating on the characters they have already.

I didn't like Three whom they put a lot of emphasis on in season 3. I was resentful of her because I think she took away a lot of stories from those established characters (especially Six) whom I was interested in since the beginning of the story. As a result, I was not interested in any of her stories at all!

I'll really be upset if yet another secondary character--not to mention a character we've never seen or heard of--takes up storytime from the main ones, as I felt is what happened in season 3.

That's how I felt too a lot of the times this season. *sigh* As for me, I couldn't get enough story of Lee and Bill. I wouldn't even mind for more story with Lee and Anders (yep, I can't believe I would say this, but it would be nice for Lee to have some real friends)...
(Anonymous)
May. 7th, 2007 11:51 pm (UTC)
By the way, that response was from me, X.

mick
liebestrume
May. 8th, 2007 01:34 am (UTC)
Oh well, maybe they'll kill her off in episode 3. A girl can dream!

Btw, if we aer going to DragonCon, shouldn't we be registering now? Think the price goes up as the event gets close.
xwacky
May. 8th, 2007 01:43 am (UTC)
Oh well, maybe they'll kill her off in episode 3. A girl can dream!

I like that idea very much!

Btw, if we aer going to DragonCon, shouldn't we be registering now?

Eeeek! Thanks for reminding me. Yeah, I would like to register! I didn't realize they have "early bird" special!
liebestrume
May. 8th, 2007 02:26 am (UTC)
Not "early" bird special, I am afraid! It's already somehwat late in the game. We just don't want to be penalized for being the "really late" birds.

Go to the office site an dyou'll see what I mean. Do it before you go to France.
xwacky
May. 8th, 2007 02:46 am (UTC)
{{giggles}} "really late" birds That's me!

Okay, just want to sync with you. I went to the DragonCon official website. I assume to register for the event is to get the Membership for DragonCon? So if I register this week, it would be $60 for what we want to attend?
liebestrume
May. 8th, 2007 03:56 am (UTC)
That's what I understand. And I think we have to download that form, fill it out, and fax it back to them.

Do you mind doing that for me when you fill out your form? ;)

(I need some new icons. *grumbles*)
xwacky
May. 8th, 2007 05:10 am (UTC)
(I need some new icons. *grumbles*)

That's because I keep snatching your lovely creations!

Do you mind doing that for me when you fill out your form? ;)

I don't mind doing that at all, I've downloaded the form already. However I think it's quicker and easier if I just pay our tickets through PayPal. But before I do that, I want to confirm with you if you are interested in doing anything else at DragonCon, for example that dinner banquet thingy ($38 I think, and I'm not sure what's that all about)...
liebestrume
May. 8th, 2007 05:23 am (UTC)
I don't know what that dinner is about either. Do we need to decide now, or just register now and decide on the activities later?

If we have to decide now, then just pick whatever strikes your fancy. That dinner sounds fine to me. Also, I assume you'd want some autogragh/photo thingie with Jamie and/or Katee?

Since this will likely be our first-and-only chance to attend any "con" I say we should just make the memories last!
(Anonymous)
May. 8th, 2007 12:10 pm (UTC)
X--you really are coming to DragonCon??????

Let me know if you go to that dinner-thingy. I don't know what that is about, either. Shawn doesn't want to go, and I know that Laurie got DragonCon tickets but not to the dinner. I need to send in my form this week so we can get the $60 rate!

Ooh, I'm excited about the prospect of meeting you!!!!

mick
xwacky
May. 8th, 2007 05:54 pm (UTC)
Mick,

I just went online and booked the tickets for me and ClairdeLune for Dragon*Con. So yap, we are going!

I'm very excited at the prospect of meeting you and Laurie in person! I hope Jordayna gets to go too!

As for the dinner on Saturday, I'm leaning towards going since we have to find a place to eat anyway. But I couldn't pay for the dinner while I used PayPal to register for the Con, so I'll have to call them later. We may not have any control over whether we get to go--the seatings maybe all sold out by now.

I tried to book the Con Hotel, but the website says it's all sold out for those days. Have you decided where you are going to stay?
(Anonymous)
May. 8th, 2007 07:49 pm (UTC)
We don't know where we are going to stay, or if we are. Atlanta is about 30 minutes away, so Shawn has mentioned just driving in. Me, I would rather be downtown so we can enjoy ourselves and not have to worry about driving late and such. Plus, we have never been away together overnight without the kids, so that would be nice. It would also be nice to not have to do dishes!!!!

We still need to talk about it some more, but with Shawn on jury duty during the day then owrking at night this week, it's making it kind of difficult. I will let you know as soon as we decided.

mick
xwacky
May. 9th, 2007 05:23 am (UTC)
Oh it would be cool if you guys can stay overnight so we can party!

So you are planning to go to the Con sans the kids? That sounds really nice. Also it's nice that Shawn is going there with you!

Poor Shawn, jury duty is no fun!

Please keep me informed of your plan. Also maybe I should mention this at the Realm... Laurie is going to Dragon*Con too, isn't she?
(Anonymous)
May. 9th, 2007 12:02 pm (UTC)
Yes, Laurie is goin, too. And we are planning to go sans kids.

I am mailing in the form this morning--I am torn about the guest banquet thingy. Shawn said we could go if I wanted, but I'm just not sure, especially since I don't know anything about it. I tried to look up info about past banquets, and didn't recognize some of the guests (although one year one of the people was Ray Bradbury). I'm thinnking now of not getting tickets for that, and then calling (like you) if I change my mind. Plus, the pics look like the dress might be a little nicer than casual, and I don't think Shawn would be into that! (he's a jeans kind of guy). I will definitely keep you up to date with our plans. Next I guess is I have to try to find a hotel!!!!

mick
xwacky
May. 9th, 2007 10:44 pm (UTC)
Yes, Laurie is goin, too. And we are planning to go sans kids.

Party time!

Next I guess is I have to try to find a hotel!!!!

Let me know where you plan to stay!
xwacky
May. 8th, 2007 05:13 pm (UTC)
Okay, I've used PayPal to register both of us for the Dragon*Con.

I agree that this most likely be our first-and-only chance to attend a "con" so I'm inclined to attend that dinner on Saturday night. We got to eat somewhere anyway, and it might as well be Dragon*Con's dinner banquet--for that price, the food might be less desirable, but it's the experience right? The only thing is, I couldn't pay for the dinner through PayPal, so I would have to call the Dragon*Con office later. The seatings are limited, so we may not be able to attend after all.

I also checked the Conference hotel--Hyatt Regency Atlanta. FRAK!FRAK!FRAK! I acted too late--the hotel is all sold out during those days. The hotel website says Diamond Members are guaranteed availability. Geoff and I are members of Hilton chains. :( How about you? Would you by any chance be a Diamond Member at Hyatt chain?
liebestrume
May. 9th, 2007 02:30 am (UTC)
Would you by any chance be a Diamond Member at Hyatt chain?
Nope. Sorry. :(

No worries. We can camp on the streets. Or camp in the Four Seasons. Your call.
xwacky
May. 9th, 2007 05:15 am (UTC)
No worries. We can camp on the streets. Or camp in the Four Seasons. Your call.

WOW! Four Seasons--that's really nice! Think we can get a room there?

p.s. I wimp out even camping in a tent, so street is definitely not going to happen!
liebestrume
May. 10th, 2007 04:26 pm (UTC)
Hey, I actually did something this morning instead of just sitting on my lazy bum (and fielding calls from work).

I booked us for 5 nights (from Thursday to the following Tuesday) at the Ritz. Four Seasons is a bit too far, but this Ritz is only a few block from the Hyatt. I will e-mail the details separately so you can Google map.

No worries if you don't like it, want to change the dates, or want to stay elsewhere. I can cancel w/o problem. I just want to make sure we have somewhere to sleep, and Ritz is usually a good bet all things considered.
xwacky
May. 11th, 2007 01:40 am (UTC)
Ritz looks really nice. I looked up google map's satellite image, and it's not that far from Hyatt Regency. As to the Con's overflow hotels--Hilton looks kinda drab from the exterior, and Marriott seems to be all booked too for those days.

Thanks so much for doing this. I was stressed out thinking we are not going to find a hotel near Dragon*Con! *Phew*
xwacky
May. 8th, 2007 05:57 pm (UTC)
Forgot to tell you that I chose "xwacky" for my badge name, and "ClairdeLune" for yours. I hope it's okay with you.
liebestrume
May. 9th, 2007 02:27 am (UTC)
Thanks for doing this. It's fine. Though I would have preferred "Liebestraume" which is what I go by on Sci-Fi forums. Is it too late to change? No worries if it is. Just curious.
xwacky
May. 9th, 2007 05:20 am (UTC)
Oops! I thought you might be using a different screen name on the Skiffy board, but I didn't remember what it was. *head banging wall*

I'll call the Con office tomorrow to see if I can still change it. I was planning on calling them anyway to find out more info about Saturday's banquet.
(Anonymous)
May. 9th, 2007 12:03 pm (UTC)
Will you let me know what they say????

mick
xwacky
May. 9th, 2007 10:08 pm (UTC)
Mick, this is what I found out:

The guests of the Con (i.e. Jamie, Katee...) should be given the tickets to the banquet, but it's their decision whether or not they will attend. So there's no guarantee who's gonna be there.

As to the dress code for the banquet, she says she's seen people dress anywhere from shorts & Hawaiian shirts to tuxedos!

She also said seatings to the banquet should be available through June/July, but August is pushing it...

It would be fun if we all go to the banquet as a group, between you, Shawn, Laurie, Brad (is he coming too?), qqzj, and me, we are almost able to get a whole table...
(Anonymous)
May. 9th, 2007 11:12 pm (UTC)
Hmmm, sounds like fun (and dnag it, I just mailed in my form for tickets today without paying for the banquet!!!!{{bangs head}}

Did you by any chance tell Laurie this? Is this something you guys want to do? I know Shawn would do it for me. Do they book the tables ahead of time, or is it get your seat as you come in? If they book it as you order, should just one person get all the tickets and then everyone else pay them back?

I will email Laurie about this. I don't know if Brad is coming (I don't know if he's decided yet).

OT--I joined the Sci-Fi site and was posting today in the Bunny thread. There was a really good discussion going on about Lee, his relationship with Bill, stuff with Dee, etc. I had mentioned you a couple of times (basically saying how much you love a good discussion and how much I love reading your thoughts) and I "met" a friend of yours. Her screen name is Liebestraume. She said she's known you for years!

Just let me know what you think about tickets to the banquet. It sounds like we have a little time to decide, but if we're going to do this, we should probably go ahead and get the tickets!
xwacky
May. 10th, 2007 12:10 am (UTC)
Don't worry about not purchasing the banquet at this time. I didn't either. I think we are pretty safe if we decide sometimes before the end of July. The lady I talked to said she'll tell her webmaster to put the link to pay with PayPal back for buying the banquet seating (the link was there before, but for some reason, it got taken out). Even if we can't pay it with PayPal, I can just call her back to buy them over the phone. Come to think of it, if we all decide to go, I should call her on the phone to request we all get seated at one table.

I meant to post a blurb at AR about going to Dragon*Con, but I keep forgetting to do so. I should let Laurie know soon, and I want to find out if she want to go the the banquet or not.

Speaking of Skiffy board, Liebestraume is ClairdeLune AND qqzj!
She's having a "multiple personality" syndrome!

Thanks for letting me know about what's happening in the "bunny thread" at skiffy! I haven't been there in ages (well, since the season was over). Got to check it out. What screen name did you register there at skiffy?
(Anonymous)
May. 10th, 2007 12:30 am (UTC)
LOL--I think I talked to Claire a couple of times in chat. I wonder if she remembers me? I actually wondered if it was her that posted. I registered with the same name as AR--I couldn't really think of anything else!

I emailed Laurie a little while ago with the info you found out. I told her to let me know about the banquet.

mick
xwacky
May. 9th, 2007 09:54 pm (UTC)
'Kay, it's done! I called the Dragon*Con office earlier today, and the lady switched your badge name to Liebestraume. :)

I also asked about the dinner banquet. Basically, it's the "award ceremony" where they pass some awards to some of the guests, special guests, special special guests... Anyway, she told me that banquet tickets are given to the guests of the Cons, but it's entirely individual guest's discretion whether he/she choose to attend. So she can't predict who's going to be at the banquet.

At this point, there are still plenty of seatings available for the banquet. But she did say that based on how things are going, the banquet will be sold out this year. She can't swear for sure, but from her past experience working for the Con, she predicts they will still have spaces available in June and July, but August can be iffy.
liebestrume
May. 10th, 2007 12:31 am (UTC)
'Kay, it's done! I called the Dragon*Con office earlier today, and the lady switched your badge name to Liebestraume. :)

Thanks for doing this, girl! Could you call her one more time to see if she could fit ClairdeLune and stilettos81 on that badge as well? You know, this way all my three personalities get to attend!

So, on to hotel ... looks like the homeless shelter is out, where so you want to stay?
laurie31
May. 10th, 2007 06:14 am (UTC)
Oh wow!! I have been so busy with Real Life I haven't been on LJ so much lately...and look what I missed! I didn't know you were coming to DragonCon! That is SOOOO awesome!! Gosh, we could be like the group of bunnies in that vid someone linked to, where they said they had as much fun meeting each other as they did meeting the celebrities (and I know Mick was as cool as JB and MMD!) so how much fun would FOUR of us have?!

Now I'm not going ot be able to sleep at the thoughts of it! :)

And X - I must know where you're getting your cool emoticons! I need some of those - lol!

Brad is too focused on our trip to Yosemite to think about DragonCon - in fact, I've been meaning to email you about that. We have to make reservations in only a few weeks! It's really slipped up on me. We have to decide a rough itinerary to know where we want to be when and all that. I would LOVE to come to see you, but Brad fears it's too far to drive. He wants to fly into Fresno. Is there a better (better as in CLOSER) airport? Could we fly into (or out of)somplace else and then not have to drive round-trip from Yosemite?

Sorry, that was a lot of questions! I'll try to email you tomorrow! :) I can't wait to meet you and Claire/Liebestraume/Stiletto (and I'm wishing I had a more clever user name - lol)
xwacky
May. 11th, 2007 01:11 am (UTC)
Sorry it took me all day to reply you--I had TONS of stuff I needed to do before we go to France this weekend.

Gosh, we could be like the group of bunnies in that vid someone linked to, where they said they had as much fun meeting each other as they did meeting the celebrities (and I know Mick was as cool as JB and MMD!) so how much fun would FOUR of us have?!

I'm excited just thinking about it! I'm sure we'll have a blast!

And X - I must know where you're getting your cool emoticons! I need some of those - lol!

Here's the link to my photobucket emoticon folder. You should find all the emoticons I have so far. I'm still adding to it whenever I get new ones, but that's where they'd be located.

Sorry, that was a lot of questions! I'll try to email you tomorrow!

No worry! Fresno airport is the closest to Yosemite. That's over 90 miles away depending on which part of Yosemite you guys are going. Where are you going to stay--a hotel or camping? Anyway, Fresno airport is a little over 100 miles away from Monterey.

I'd love to have you guys to come & visit. It's fun here too--much different from Yosemite of course. We are members of Monterey Bay Aquarium, so we can take you guy there for free without the hassle of waiting in lines. You are planning the vacation in the summer next year right? So it'd be perfect for the beaches here. I think you, Brad, and the girls would really enjoy Carmel's white sand beach!
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xwacky
May. 12th, 2007 10:28 pm (UTC)
Oh yannik, you'll be sorely missed!

We'll try to take lots of pictures for you!
helen_c
May. 8th, 2007 03:24 pm (UTC)
*sigh*

I've been known to stop watching shows (WaT comes to mind) because they added a new character and I just grow tired, every now and then, of seeing the dynamics between the character change because of that. Not very mature I know; life is all about changes, and so on, and sometimes the changes are good, but most times, adding new characters only drives me away from a show.

This said, I'll try very hard to watch without preconceived ideas. If this is to be the last season, I really want to enjoy it.

It's just that I want more Lee-centered stories, and sadly, the more characters are around, the less screen time he'll get (especially if TPTB fall in love with the new character).

So, yes, what's the point at this time of the show?...
xwacky
May. 8th, 2007 06:17 pm (UTC)
I'll try very hard to watch without preconceived ideas. If this is to be the last season, I really want to enjoy it.

That is a very good attitude! I tends to get worked up prematurely because I care so much about this show. I have my favorites (namely the Adama boys), and I get too "protective" of their story lines.

You are very right that adding a new character will change the dynamics between the characters. My thing is, the characters and their dynamics are already very fascinating and rich, why change that?

I'm already wrapped up in the established characters, I don't think I'd be interested in investing time and efforts to get to know a new character, especially when the story is about to reach its climax.

It's just that I want more Lee-centered stories...

Hear, hear!
helen_c
May. 9th, 2007 07:31 pm (UTC)
I have my favorites (namely the Adama boys), and I get too "protective" of their story lines.
Right with you there...
roadrunnerdm
May. 8th, 2007 07:12 pm (UTC)
I wouldn't place too much of a stake on what is reported at SyFy Portal. They have shown a tendency to be unable to distinguish fan-created rumors from actual spoilers in the past, but even so there is no indication at this point that the new character will be anything more than a guest character, and her association with the Pegasus could very well mean that her role will be limited to the mid-hiatus flashback movie, which is based back on the Pegasus during Cain's command. The movie should be going into production soon, so any spoilers emerging these days are likely to refer to that as opposed to season 4.

I'd also be VERY surprised (and sorely disappointed) if the final Cylon is a brand new character. If you're going to save one up for the very last minute in the series, why make the final revelation so anti-climactic? Then again, I'm trying to be logical and view the big-picture...which is a something Ron Moore hasn't managed to do very well lately.
xwacky
May. 9th, 2007 05:08 am (UTC)
I hope you are right on all accounts here. *sigh*

What worries me is that I do remember toward the end of last season, I saw some blurbs from RDM (or was it DE) talking about a permanent change in the cast. At that time many were freaked out thinking Katee was going to be gone. But that's not the case. So may be this new character is here to stay till the end?

I'd also be VERY surprised (and sorely disappointed) if the final Cylon is a brand new character.

Me too! I would be very disappointed if the final cylon turns out to be someone we haven't met before. Heck, I still wish to see Starbuck as the cylon instead of using other means to make her immortal.
roadrunnerdm
May. 10th, 2007 12:09 am (UTC)
RMD & DE said that the "permanent" change to the cast would occur as a result of the events in season 3...so it was just one more tidbit in the deception campaign. But something from the mid-hiatus movie is supposed to carry over and have an important impact on season 4, so even if the new character is being introduced in the movie she could possibly be the element that ties the movie to season 4. Anything is possible at this point.

Heck, I still wish to see Starbuck as the cylon instead of using other means to make her immortal.
I'm in complete agreement with you on that one. If anything supernatural comes into play with Kara's "special destiny" both she and the show will be ruined. Making her the final Cylon is the only credible option they have left.
xwacky
May. 10th, 2007 06:09 pm (UTC)
...so it was just one more tidbit in the deception campaign.

::rolls my eyes::

What phrase did Jamie use? ...Oh yeah, an absolute farce! Hee...

...so even if the new character is being introduced in the movie she could possibly be the element that ties the movie to season 4. Anything is possible at this point.

Hmmm... I wonder where are they going with this. To me the Pegasus story is done and over with--they've brought it to a satisfactory conclusion for me. Now go back and adding more story to it... I'm afraid there's gonna be another retcon that I won't like. It seems they can't just leave the "dead" be dead. I think this is the reason I find myself surprisingly lacking enthusiasm for this mid-hiatus movie they are making. {{sigh}}
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