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6.01 - Exile on Main Street (SPN)

Show. You make it really hard for me to not like you when your star is so pretty and hurty.

So Supernatural premiered Friday night, with considerable less fanfare than last year's Twitter Controversy. I'll be honest, despite my excitement over the show's return, I was quite nervous too before the premier. This has a lot to do with me being not exactly happy with how the show ended last season. After watching the episode, I breathed a sigh of relief. There still are parts that I'm conflicted about, but overall I liked it. Really liked it.

The following is my list of the good, the funny, and the not so good parts. First, here are the good:

>> I'm happy to see all of my interpretations of Dean's motivation seem to get validated here. To start of, some of you may remember seeing my comments here and there that I believed Dean only went to live with Lisa because of the promise he made to Sam. I'm a little vexed at hearing people (especially Sam) say that Dean always wanted a family of his own, a white picket fenced house. No, no, no, no! This is what other people wanted for Dean. All Dean ever wanted, like he so forcefully said here, was his brother, alive! That is not to say however, Dean wasn't curious about the kind of life Sam so desired. Hence my interpretation of why during Dean's darkest hours, Lisa came up again and again in Dean's conscious. But he is not in love with her, nor the lifestyle she represents.

>> I really enjoyed seeing Dean trying to live a life so different from what he had known before. The montage clip was well put together, and Jensen Ackles is such a nuanced actor, he was able to portray that although Dean was leading this sunny and peaceful life, there was lingering grief lurking behind his eyes that was never going to go away, only pushed deeper inward. While the colorful frames of Dean's daily routine put a grin on my face, the black and white frames of his past (especially when Sam handing Dean a bottle of beer at a roadside) made me nostalgic for Dean's old life.

>> I had surmised whole summer long, based on my belief Sam is still and always will be Dean's everything, that Dean would want to put suburbia in his rearview mirror the minute Sam came to get him. But that also posed a problem for me because I don't want to see Dean becoming a douche for abandoning Lisa and Ben like yesterday's socks after he practically inserted himself in their lives. I was satisfied to see my guess was correct that Dean did say goodbye to Lisa and was ready to leave with Sam at first. But true to his protector form, after suffering through the Djinn induced nightmare, Dean changed his mind and decided to stay so he could protect Lisa and Ben from harm. Once again, this is in line with what I know of the character -- between what he wants and what he should, Dean always chooses the latter. Also true to form, Dean's decision here showed the deep seated guilt he carries and the responsible person that he is. He saw his association with Lisa and Ben was what put them in danger, thus he naturally took it on as his duty to keep them safe. I'm certain before the season is half over, Dean will be on the road again driving his beloved Impala with Sam, but until then, I'm interested in seeing how the writers are going to get him there, away from that nicely kept green lawn.

>> I'm content with Lisa's characterization so far. I always liked Lisa, and saw her as a level headed capable woman who was doing a fine job of raising her son on her own. I was afraid she would be turned into either a whiny damsel in distress or a sacrificial lamb that gets burned on the ceiling a la Mary and Jessica. Her wish for Dean to stay did not say she could no longer be an adequate parent by herself. As a mother to a young son myself, I totally gets her when she said she wanted Ben to have a role model he could look up to. What she said about Dean being great with Ben affirmed what I suspected of him -- that he is a better man than John ever was, just like Bobby has said.

>> I'm relieved YED wasn't resurrected here. I read the blurb in the summer that Fredric Lehne was returning and I was conflicted. While I liked his portrayal as the sinister YED, I also felt strongly that YED should stay dead after Dean killed him so spectacularly in AHBL II. Turned out I could have my cake and eat it too. I'm more than okay to have the evil SOB turning up in Dean's nightmares. Hmmm, maybe Alastair can join him there too? The Hell's Grand Inquisitor is another villain I don't wish to see gets brought back to life after Sam killed him equally spectacularly in OTHOAP, but if he terrorizes Dean in his dreams, I'm all for it. *evil grin*

>> I never had any reservation about Grandpa Campbell coming back. Mitch Pileggi is a fine actor, and he has a great rapport with Jensen. The reunion scene, coupled with flashbacks and somber music gave me goosebumps and brought tears to my eyes. I also love the hint of a secret agenda Samuel Campbell apparently harbors. I'm not exactly sure he isn't evil, but I'm more inclined to think he is just ruthless, an end justify means type of guy. I'm eagerly awaiting Samuel Campbell's character to unfold.

>> My heart gave a little flutter when Samuel said Dean reminded him of Mary. I maybe wrong here but I think it was only fanon before that Dean took after his mother. Now, it's canon, guys! *g*

>> When I first heard of cousin Campbells popping out of the woodwork all of a sudden, I wasn't too thrilled. But I gotta say I loved the idea of a militia group they formed after watching the episode. I also find this unique combination of natural camaraderie and competition between the Campbells and the Winchesters intriguing. For that, I'll handwave at the unlikelihood of them never heard of each other before given they are all hunters.

>> I really liked Dean's reaction when he first saw Sam again. All summer long I had imagined how Dean would react in that instance, but none of my imaginations could hold candle to Jensen's finely calibrated performance here. There were confusion, disbelieving, mixed in with a longing for it to be true at first. Then it was joy of getting his brother back, followed by rage and hurt at being left out of the truth all this time. When Dean hugged Sam after realizing it was his brother in the flesh in front of him, my heart ached at seeing so much love, relief, along with a hint of lingering doubt shone in Dean's expressive eyes.

>> Lastly but not the least of the goodies, did I mention Dean looked awfully pretty here? Well he did to me. I highly approve of the new stylish jacket he wore in this episode. The hip skimming length accentuated Dean's broad shoulders, slim waist and narrow hips. The color looked good on him too, bringing out his fair complexion and the greenness of his eyes. I'm sure the jacket will be gone as soon as Dean untucks his shirt. Until then, I'll enjoy it while I can.

Now we come to the funny parts. Not a whole lot I'm afraid, but a couple of moments gave me glee:

>> I giggled when cousin Gwen told Dean he has delicate features for a hunter (much to Dean's chagrin). Of course she had to follow it with "...Sam's going on and on." Hehe, Sam, what have you been telling your cousin about Dean?!

>> I also chortled at the looks Sam and Dean exchanged when Sam held up the club and went: "Really? Golf?" Dean of course responded indignantly "It's a sport!" I can't help imagining that was a J2 moment where Jared teased Jensen about playing golf, and Jensen was all exasperated at Jared's ribbing.

At last, here are the parts I'm not too pleased with. I hesitate to say they are bad because I'm not sure what is going on yet. Still, they threw me off somewhat:

>> My biggest iffy is with Sam. He felt entirely too robotic to me. Contrast to Dean who was so layered with deep set emotions, Sam was almost flat. He goes through motions, says what needs to be said without much feeling. The same hug I listed under the good parts above also gave me pause when the camera flipped to focus on Sam. The look on his face I could only interpret as bland, at best. Yeah sure, there was a ghost of a smile, but it didn't reach his eyes. I couldn't detect the joy and relief of having his brother in his arms again from Sam. Instead, it was more like: "Oh here's my hug." I don't know if it's intentional acting, but this 2 dimensional Sam is not doing much for me.

>> With the earnestness Sam always had in the past missing here, his all out beating at the downed Djinn gave me lots of chill and unease. I admit while it was hot seeing all that power unleashed from Sam, the lack of restraint was disturbing to me. Again, I'm not sure if this is a part of character development, but I'm not particularly excited about a story arc in which Sam gradually regains his humanity.

>> I'm kinda upset with Bobby at the moment. I know his motive stemmed from wanting Dean safe from harm. Yet I think he was way too callous in keeping the truth about Sam away from Dean all this time. After went through so much with the boys, Bobby is one of the few remaining souls who truly understood how much Sam meant to Dean; and how deeply Sam's death and suffering hurt Dean. So it's almost cruel he would keep the news of Sam's return away from Dean, letting Dean wallow and flounder unnecessarily in grief. Of course, there is a possibility that Bobby has doubts in regard to Sam. In that case I can understand his silence. But that doesn't say much for my peace of mind.

>> My head boggled a little at the redefining of what familiar monsters do. I was all WTH, weren't Djinns suppose to make people's fondest dreams "come true" so they can drink their blood? Instead, they are bringing on nightmares and poisoning their victims now? I understand this is Supernatural, so the writers can pretty much change the rules at the drop of a hat. But I think it's a little confusing when previously established setups are thrown out of the window.

Now that I've listed all the good, the funny, and the not-so-good parts of the episode, I'm left with a little wishful thinking at the end: I've read the interview in which Jared thinks Sam's sojourn in Hell was much worse than Dean's, whatnot with two archangels raging epic battles around him all the time. Truth is I hope it's not true. For one thing, I'm so done with the lame "epic battle" of Lucifer and Michael in Swan Song that I want no rehashing of it what so ever. Also I think it's an unwise endeavor to make Sam's torturous experience directly comparable to Dean's. Jensen has portrayed post Hell Dean close to perfection, it's almost impossible for Jared to top that in my opinion. So this is what I wish instead, that contrary to what appears, Sam's soul never went into the pit with his body. After all, it was said in Dark Side of the Moon that both Sam and Dean's souls are Heaven bound. Wouldn't it be a cool twist if that's exactly what happened to Sam--his soul was snatched by the angels after he made the jump, only instead of the Heaven he and Dean both saw, he ended up in the same "prison" where Castiel and Anna were sent to be reconditioned. That would actually give me a satisfactory explanation of why Sam is the way he is here, and it would make his experience distinctly different from Dean's so that it would not warrant drawing comparisons between the two.


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Sep. 27th, 2010 08:09 am (UTC)
Dean loves Sam too much. That will make his position so vulnerable.

But Jensen is so pretty and he's such a great actor. That's enough for me. :)
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:16 am (UTC)
Hee, Dean is rather vulnerable, isn't he? He feels too much I think despite his penchant for building emotional walls and being all stoic.

I'm guessing you've seen the episode already. How do you like it? I didn't have time and was a little afraid of seeing people's reaction to this one.
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:22 am (UTC)
I don't think he can be all stoic anymore. :)

Yes, I've seen it but I'm a bit negative about it. It's rather confusing and unfocused for me. I love the first part portraying Dean's life but that's it. And I agree with you about Sam whose character is not strong at all and I don't really like the Campbells. :)

Btw, I also don't feel like reading people's reviews since I don't feel too strong about the ep itself.
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:31 am (UTC)
Fair enough how you felt about the episode. We can't all like the same things.

I actually think Dean is still quite stoic given how he was treated by the ones he loved the most. Any lesser man I think would crumble in his shoes. Instead, he sucks it all up, and carry on with a stiff upper lip all the time.
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:37 am (UTC)
You're right about Dean there. Well, that's my man. :D

We can't all like the same things.

Oh, but reading your review opened my mind so thank you! :D
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:50 am (UTC)
Awww, thank you! I'm happy to share my thoughts. :D
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:21 am (UTC)
But he is not in love with her

Except for those "happy" pics of him and Lisa, I really didn't see him being in love with her at all.

My heart gave a little flutter when Samuel said Dean reminded him of Mary.

Mine too, mine too! *bounces*

My biggest iffy is with Sam.

Yup, me too. And the only thing that'll make it alright for the way they treated Dean is that there's a bigger picture there. That they're keeping Dean out of hunting for a reason say, like maybe they want to keep him safe from something that's gunning for him if he continued with the hunting life. I mean, come on, don't they all know that Dean is all about Hunting and Family?

Love your screencap there. Exquisite!Dean mmmmmmm ...

Edited at 2010-09-27 08:22 am (UTC)
Sep. 27th, 2010 08:48 am (UTC)
Ah! But pictures do not always say a thousand words. Often than not, they show only a pose, a snapshot of a moment without context. ;-)

One thing about Dean's character I see is he doesn't do things half-cocked. If he decided to do something, he would go all the way. In that sense, I see him putting forth his best face/effort in living with Lisa and Ben, even if his heart is filled with grief. Also I see Dean is "substituting" Sam with Ben. This is not to say Dean will ever forget Sam, but I think caring for Ben reminded a lot of caring for Sam when he was little.

Hmmm, your theory about Sam and Bobby keeping Dean out of it is interesting. But Sam is just too bland here for me to gauge what is up with him.

Hee, Dean does look exquisite in that picture. No wonder cousin Gwen commented about his "delicate" features when they first met! ;-)
Sep. 27th, 2010 03:34 pm (UTC)
I agree with so much that you had to say. Lovely review <3 I especially agree about YED and I really like what you had to say about Dean's reactions to seeing Sam again. You analyzed Jensen's acting so closely - you know how they say when something is done right, you sorta don't notice, because it just fits? This is one of those things. Dean was feeling so much, and Jensen did an amazing job (not like we should be surprised). I know a lot of people were angry as to how quick he let go (I won't deny I was a little upset too), I can still understand why he did it.

Whoa, interesting theory on Sam's soul missing. It would explain a bit of Sam's behavior, but I don't know if they would actually do that to Sam. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Oh! And I completely forgot about the bit about Dean resembling his mother! I was so touched! ;__;
Sep. 28th, 2010 04:44 am (UTC)
Oh hon, thanks for such lovely words.

The reason I like to analyze Dean's reactions/motivations so much is because Jensen's acting is so visceral that I feel all these emotions I suppose his character feels.

Really? People were angry at how quickly Dean let go? As in letting go too soon of the reunion hug? The thing is, although Dean is someone who feels deeply, he is not a touchy-feely type of guy. I think it would be out of character for him to be physically clingy.

For some reason, Sam's current behavior reminds me a bit of post Heaven Prison bound Castiel and Anna, kinda single mindedly determined. I think it would be a kicker that while everybody expected Sam fell down into the pit, he actually went up instead. Show has already hinted up there can be nasty too, so why not have Sam experience that? But like you said, I also doubt they would do that to Sam, especially when Jared specifically said Sam went to the worse Hell. *shrugs*

Hee. I love the idea that Dean resembles Mary, same as I love the notion that Sam and John are a lot alike. =p
Sep. 28th, 2010 03:38 pm (UTC)
Awww, you're welcome ♥!

I don't know if I could ever analyze his acting like that, but I understood what he's feeling, so I guess that's good enough for me.

Yeah, they were. And like I said, part of me gets it too, cause I wish he would of held on a little longer, but I get it. It's not that he's not a clingy person either - it's just the overload of emotions he was feeling, so I understand on that part.

It would be an interesting turn of events, I'll give you that. I guess if Lucifer was wearing him to the prom, he must have seen the nastiest bowels of Hell *shivers* I just scared myself now .__.;;

That is so cool because it feels like it was unintentional.
Sep. 29th, 2010 06:01 am (UTC)
I actually am not particularly interested in the more horrific (than Dean's) Hell Sam may or may not have seen. Personally, I feel that kind of direct comparison is creatively redundant. I feel Jensen has already done an excellent job of portraying what a "tour in Hell" does to a man. That story has already been told well, why give it a redux? There are plenty of other stories/scenarios out there for the writers to explore, I think. Also personally, I like Sam the best when he's über strong (minus the overboard beating that is) and sharp. I don't like him so much when he's vulnerable and overwrought with self pity and pain. But that's just me. And if Jared's interview is anything to go by, I think the show is heading in the opposite direction of what I wish to see. Oh well, at least the boys will be pretty to look at. And I believe I can always count on Dean to give me the emotional content that I crave. =p
Sep. 27th, 2010 03:44 pm (UTC)
I had so many problems with this episode that every time I write it down, it sounds horrible (like I'm bashing everyone on the show!). I agree with some of what you say, and I like the idea about Sam's soul having gone to heaven (because I am so not interested in seeing a "my hell was worse then your hell" storyline), but overall, I didn't like this one at all. I didn't like Sam, Bobby irked me, and I didn't like "rusty" Dean. There's no way one year out would make him that way. And, personally, I wanted him to be angrier at how he was treated by his family. Even the preview for next week's episode annoyed me.

I was very worried about this season after the finale (which I didn't like at all). Then when I read/saw interviews from ComiCon (particularly those of Kripke, JP, and a couple of the other show runners), I got more concerned. Then I saw the previews and I thought that maybe it wouldn't be so bad. Then I read the article you referenced above, esp what JA said about Dean and the part you mentioned about Sam, and my worry cam back even stronger. This episode did nothing to alleviate it.

I do have to say, though, that I always love reading your reviews. They are so well thought out--even when I don't agree, I like seeing another side.

Love the pic--Jensen was super hot in this episode!
Sep. 28th, 2010 05:49 am (UTC)
Oh hon, fair enough. I kinda guessed many people would not like this episode. I was a little apprehensive of reading other reviews.

I hear you on "my hell was worse then your hell" storyline. That sounds really juvenile and trite. I don't know why Jared said that unless that is the direction the story goes. *headdesk*

My knee-jerk reaction toward Bobby was being so mad at him for omitting the truth (hence lying) to Dean. I couldn't believe he thought he had the right to manipulate Dean to live the life he thinks is best for Dean. If that is all there is to it, then he is a hypocrite for criticizing John. But then again, maybe Bobby has doubts about Sam, and giving how "well" his dead wife coming back for him turned out, I can totally see he would want to keep Sam's unexplained resurrection away from Dean. I guess we'll know more about Bobby's motive later on. So until then, I'm reserving my criticism of Bobby.

Hmmm, I don't see Dean as being too rusty. Yes, he hasn't been hunting for a year, but as we saw, his instincts were still there. It's just that since he was out of the loop, there was no way he would know Djinns were acting strangely and thus on the look out for them. But as soon as he thought he heard something suspicious, he went after it. Only by then he was already affected by the Djinn poison, thus he really didn't have all his faculty intact for the most part of the episode. Even so, he was still sharper than those "professional" Campbells for coming up with a better strategy to draw out the Djinns, twice.

Argh, that infamous interview! I actually was kinda relieved reading what JA said. Now I know JA is a thinking actor (like JB ;) and he is concerned with his character's throughline. As long as the actor is out to protect the character he plays, I'm not too worried about it turning up all over the places (like certain character I kept complaining I just don't get her in the past ;)

But if I'm honest, that interview did make me nervous because of what JP said about his character. While I'm not worried about Dean, I'm a little worried about Sam.

Hee. Thanks for your kind words about my review. It's always a pleasure discussing episodes with you. We've been together for 2 fandoms already!
Sep. 28th, 2010 11:42 am (UTC)
Oh, I didn't mean Dean was rusty, I was referring to the scene in the end where Sam asks him to come with him and Dean tells him he is rusty. That bothered me, because he came across as smart (I mean, it was his plan!) and not rusty. He was still willing to go into that abandoned hotel when he heard the screaming as well. Plus, I had read that interview before the show aired, so I already knew what JA said about Dean being "soft." I am glad that he is willing to protect his character, but he still can't do much if that's how they write him.

I think both Sam and Bobby were hypocrites. Did you see that interview with JP from ComiCon, where he said that Sam was going to be more like season 1 Dean (he even said he went back and watched old episodes to see how Dean was)? I didn't see any of season 1 Dean in him--I saw John. He kept a huge secret from Dean, told Dean what he(Dean) wanted, and didn't give Dean all the info so he could make his own decision. His decision not only affected Dean, but Lisa and Ben as well.

I'm more worried about how Dean is going to be portrayed than Sam. I'm over the "what is wrong with Sam" thing.

Hey, could you imagine both JB and JA in something together?!?! I think that would be awesome!!!!
Sep. 29th, 2010 05:20 am (UTC)
Oh I see. That's what you meant. The thing is I don't think Dean really thought he's less capable. If so, he wouldn't trust himself to safeguard Lisa and Ben. And I think that's the reason he stayed, to protect them from harm.

So why he said what he said then? Here's my interpretation: Dean has always been rather hard on himself. Sure he says stuff like "I'm the best hunter", but I get the vibe he's saying it in jest, not boasting. I don't mean he isn't confident in himself, but I don't see him worrying about how good or bad he is -- he's more of a "I'll fight until I can't" type of guy instead of the consciously cognizant of "am I good enough to do this" kind.

I think there's also a bit of resentment Dean has that Sam chose to ally with a bunch of other hunters, family or not, than with him. So I detect a little of "why do you need me to come with you? I'm rusty according to your new friends. Why don't you just leave me alone" sentiment behind Dean's words.

As to the interview, I have a feeling that when JA said Dean is written "soft", he was having difficulties with a particular episode they were filming at the time. I don't know who wrote that one yet, but given they had some veteran writers left to develop other projects, I wouldn't be surprised some newbies worked on that one. I also think the problem JA had was strictly with the dialog. Maybe Dean was made to say stuff that was too touchy feely. But isn't this what some of us always wanted from him--to be more "in touch" with his and Sam's emotional well beings? For example, I remember we were kinda miffed at Dean at the end of "Sam, Interrupted" for so insensitively telling Sam to shove his issues aside, and just keep forging ahead. But given Dean had essentially been a father to a young child for almost a year, maybe he would be more nurturing these day, less a diehard soldier. Still, I agree with you that I do not want to see Dean too out of character. I fell in love with a stoic tough Dean, and that's how I prefer him to be most of the time, but I also dig it so much when that tough exterior cracks, and the vulnerability underneath show through. So with JA there "toughen" the new Dean up, we may just have a "perfect" character who's neither too soft nor too hard-boiled. ;-)

I keep harping on this like a broken record. While I totally agree with you that there are just so much an actor can do if his character is badly written, I also happen to think JA has been elevating the character his been given from day one (this is not to say Dean isn't well written, I just thought JA made him even better). I maybe biased because I'm such a fangirl, but if you go by what they said during the commentary for "The End", Kripke, Singer, and Edlund thought so too.

I don't think I watched that particular interview of JP from ComicCon, but I agree with you that Sam may seem superficially more like Dean from season one on paper, he was portrayed nothing like Dean here. I love how you compared Sam to John. It is a "kink" of mine to compare Sam to John and Dean to Mary. ;-)

You are so right in saying Sam's decision not only affected Dean, but Lisa and Ben as well. Ever since Sam started drinking Demon blood (that would be season 4), I had always felt there's arrogance in Sam. Maybe that's a weakness for thinkers/intellectuals (of which Bobby is one too)--they tend to think they know better?

OMG! JA and JB in something together will be so awesome! But seeing JB so busily working on projects in Europe, that dream is as unlikely as pigs fly. :\
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Sep. 28th, 2010 06:48 am (UTC)
Grrrl, your review was AWESOME! I love how you can be so insightful and still so lighthearted.

Something is up with Sam for sure. While I want to find out the answers, I'm also a little dreading about the "Sam's Hell is far worse than Dean's" storyline.

I love it when you disagreeing with me. You bring good arguments and allow me seeing things from different angles. I admit I maybe too much of a romantic in insisting Sam is Dean's everything. I know the idea of a family beyond Sam has come up in Dean's head a couple of times, but I tends to interpret it as he was doubting Sam's need for him. When Dean was insecure about his place in Sam's world, it's only natural he would reaching outside, I think, like what he thought Sam was doing.

And I think Sam and Bobby had the same opinion as I do here. Otherwise, it makes no sense they would keep Sam's return from Dean. Their reason was had they told Dean, Dean would pick up and leave his nice new family and follow Sam instead. If they think Dean is in love with Lisa and the suburban life, why would they be so afraid Dean would abandon it just like that?

Ahhh the Campbells. Yes, they are definitely having a hidden agenda behind the boys back. And that's basically the reason I like them so far. They provide an intrigue storyarc. And I have no doubt the Winchesters are better, smarter hunters. ;-)

Me too, I'm really glad Dean didn't leave Lisa and Ben here, especially after he initially wanted to. Like you said, this showed he's been maturing. I hear you, please please don't put Lisa on the ceiling, and don't make her turn out bad. I can see Dean leave them because a) him being there puts them in danger more; or b) Sam is more in need of his protection. Either scenario I can live with.
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Sep. 29th, 2010 06:27 am (UTC)
Two reasons: (1) Sam suffering = BAD. (2) I like to think that no one ever suffers as much as Dean. LOL.

I think you are saying this in jest, but I couldn't agree with you more here!

You know you made me think about Dean all day today in the back of my mind. :o) Truth be told, had he been any "ordinary" character, I think I'd root for him to be thinking/desiring not necessarily an instant family of his own (a la Lisa and Ben), but at least something beyond the little brother he practically raised. As it is, I don't quite feel Dean's need to be with Sam is out of old habit. I think it's based on genuine love. I can see Dean's feeling was hurt when he found out Sam chose to stay with other people than with him. I noticed he never contradicted Sam when Sam said had he let Dean know he was alive, Dean would've run off with him. In his heart he knew it's true.

I sincerely hope there's more to it than we saw so far for Bobby to keep the truth away from Dean. Best intention or not, it's very arrogant for either Bobby or Sam to presume only they know what's best for Dean, what kind of life he should lead. But then, maybe it is writers intention to make these character problematic, less "perfect".
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Oct. 1st, 2010 04:51 am (UTC)
Hee. That icon is made by morgentau. Isn't it just brilliant? I was floored when I saw it. This little 100x100 pixel square expresses so much better than what I was trying to say in so many words.

I don't like seeing vulnerable!Sam with manpain at all. I'm well aware that aspect of Sam has appeal to many others, but it just doesn't do a thing for me. This has nothing to do with how well Dean suffers even if I dread at the inevitable comparison and argument between the fans on how one does better than the other. As a character, Sam is most interesting to me in season 3 when he was least concerned with himself and his own destiny. That's when his character shines IMO.

I completely agree with you that Dean knows Sam can take care of himself. In fact, I think even from way before, Dean knew that. That's why unlike John, Dean didn't stop Sam going off to college on his own. It's only when John, Castiel warned Dean that he needed to look out for Sam, and most of all, Sam started going down that dark road with Ruby that Dean became concerned with Sam not knowing what he was doing. But with Apocalypse averted and Lucifer back in the pit, that immediate danger has gone away, and unless some other evil/danger manifests around Sam, Dean's gonna think Lisa and Ben need his protection much more than Sam.

Sorry about the delayed reply. I typed up my comment yesterday on my iPhone, and again, my app "ate" half of what I wrote! *facepalm* I finally had enough of that and went look for answers. Hopefully I fixed the problem now. *fingers crossed*
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Nov. 1st, 2010 05:15 pm (UTC)
Hee. Thanks for stopping by here. *g*

You are very welcome dear. I love your icons. You are very talented. <333
Sep. 28th, 2010 06:20 am (UTC)
Sweetie, thank you for your kind words! *hugs*

The Sam we saw on screen is definitely without emotions. I've been thinking about this over and over, and the more I thought about it, the more I feel he reminded me a lot of the emotionless angels--very single minded, very determined, which makes that line about needing Dean's instinct of saving people a little strange. I don't get why that would be important to the Sam we saw here. He was so matter of fact about he doesn't possess the same instinct, I didn't think he felt that was a problem. I hope I'm making sense here, it's so late my brain is soup. The bottom line is it's too early in the game to judge what's going on with Sam. We have a whole season (and hopefully more) to work it out.

Of course Dean can get his Sam back. This is Sera Gamble we are talking about. Didn't she coin the phrase the epic love story of Sam and Dean? ;)

Joke aside though, I don't really want to see Sam and Dean go back to what they were in season one. They've each gone through so much, they shouldn't revert back to their old selves. Instead, I want to see both of them and their relationship maturing.
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